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1971 Hillman Imp

#101 User is offline   moomin 

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Posted 11 June 2010 - 05:52 PM

So what happens when either the clutch goes or an oil seal splits? ;)
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Posted 11 June 2010 - 06:35 PM

View Postmoomin, on 11 June 2010 - 06:52 PM, said:

So what happens when either the clutch goes or an oil seal splits? ;)


Not a problem as I'm planning on making a few once i've found a cheaper source of clutches.
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 08:34 AM

I reckon make up a conversion kit and flog them for mega bucks
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 06:54 PM

Got any idea's of how your gonna get the custom clutches cheaper?
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 05:46 AM

Surely now that the hub conversion parts are made any future clutch replacement would simply be a matter of grinding off the peened-over spacer/ pin ends, stripping out a new Toyota clutch disc friction surface, and reassembling and re-rivetting back together with new rivet pins?

No real need to make a new hub assembly, but might be worth having three new hub spacer pins on hand ready?

....thats assuming the new arrangement proves to be satisfactory of course...
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Posted 20 June 2010 - 03:37 PM

View PostWhiteblock, on 16 June 2010 - 06:46 AM, said:

Surely now that the hub conversion parts are made any future clutch replacement would simply be a matter of grinding off the peened-over spacer/ pin ends, stripping out a new Toyota clutch disc friction surface, and reassembling and re-rivetting back together with new rivet pins?

No real need to make a new hub assembly, but might be worth having three new hub spacer pins on hand ready?

....thats assuming the new arrangement proves to be satisfactory of course...


That's a good point actually that I hadn't really thought about, although I might try and make up one other completely spare just in case I ever need one in a hurry.
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Posted 20 June 2010 - 06:12 PM

I know what you mean. It would be handy to have a spare at the ready just in case you need one in a hurry.

Might be worth trying out and evaluating the 'prototype' first though?
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 09:21 PM

Yes not a bad idea. It should be fine, the Aygo clutch is quite 'meaty' for a 998cc engine.

Hopefully i'll be able to get cracking on with this project now as I've finally moved into my new house and literally just finished transporting the car over.
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 08:32 PM

Big picture update

Aygo/C1/107 engine vs. Imp engine:

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Test fitted into one of Jonathan's spare Imps:

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Not a lot of room for throttle bodies!

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A big thanks to Jonathan at Station Motorsports.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

Some of the welding and plating already completed:

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Lots more to follow.
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Posted 02 July 2010 - 11:06 PM

More welding:

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Jonathan is a genius!
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 10:04 PM

always loved the imp and hats off to you for thinking so outside the box with the conversion/engineering top job!
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 07:44 PM

Impressive! Take out a mortgage to pay for the work? ;)
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 07:07 PM

Also engine be okay oil pressure wise with it sat at that acute angle? Won't it just pool at one side of the sump?
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 07:05 AM

View Postmoomin, on 10 August 2010 - 08:07 PM, said:

Also engine be okay oil pressure wise with it sat at that acute angle? Won't it just pool at one side of the sump?


Modifications to the steel sump pan and the oil pick up to the pump are a given and should be relatively straightforward.

I'd also want to check out things like the camshaft lobe oil supply at that angle.... if the cams usually run in their own little oil 'baths' on these engines this might not work out anymore with the unit canted further over?

The transaxle/ bellhousing mods look well. The mating faces might well have distorted a little with the cutting and heat, and need a minimum truing cut, but modern sealers are a godsend for things like that.

Progressing nicely.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:08 PM

View Postmoomin, on 15 July 2010 - 08:44 PM, said:

Impressive! Take out a mortgage to pay for the work? ;)


No, no definitely not, but I doubt Jonathan will be taking on something like this again for awhile! It's turned out quite a lot more work than either of us anticipated!
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:10 PM

View PostWhiteblock, on 11 August 2010 - 08:05 AM, said:

Modifications to the steel sump pan and the oil pick up to the pump are a given and should be relatively straightforward.

I'd also want to check out things like the camshaft lobe oil supply at that angle.... if the cams usually run in their own little oil 'baths' on these engines this might not work out anymore with the unit canted further over?

The transaxle/ bellhousing mods look well. The mating faces might well have distorted a little with the cutting and heat, and need a minimum truing cut, but modern sealers are a godsend for things like that.

Progressing nicely.


There's always going to be a risk by leaning the engine over as much as we've had to, but luckily these engines are cheap and plentiful at the moment. If it does throw it's toys out the pram we'll just have to revise the design slightly.
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